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Posted 2:53 AM EST December 10, 2007
Posted by: fla1
society just gets more ignorant each year. I have to agree. Yes they put their lives on the line. But do I feel safe sleeping at night because they are on partrol? NO WAY! I have scanner, I listen to them. I suggest all of you do the same and you will hear how they are and what they do. By the way in Lee County Florida they get 20% it was on TV news. I own my own business and I have to be professional every day. So should they. The have a badge and a gun and they can ruin someones life very easy. Sheriff Deputies make $35,000 starting to or $60,000. Yall day is comming? Are you serious?? I rode with several police departments and the police are no different that anyone else. Do you know the reason for the police is to protect us against the government? Do you know this country was founded because of over taxation and laws. Can anyone name a true freedom we have left? Even our National Parks have been taken from us. Read about it, Clinton did it.
Posted 10:34 AM EST December 05, 2007
Posted by: cmorrisnh
Why not encourage people to drive more safely by not speeding, rather than teaching how to break the law and get away with it? Shame on you.

And....maybe we watch Cops!, but please....real cops don't watch that program for their training. Give me a break! Simpleminded article.
Posted 7:37 AM EST December 05, 2007
Posted by: CrashCop
I am a Sheriff's Deputy in Wisconsin. Though there are 2 or 3 officers that I know who can't be talked out of a ticket because they love ruining your day, about 90% of us are human. When I observe a violation and make a traffic stop, I am looking for the violator to take ownership. Many officer will use the 'Do you know why I stopped you?' technique. If this is the case, tell them. I use a more assertive approach, 'I am stopping you because you did ____. Why did you do that?'

REMAIN CALM! Be courteous. Even if the officer isn't. DO NOT say, 'I didn't know...'

DO NOT CRY! Show genuine concern for the violation and appreciation for the officer addressing the violation. Use responses such as 'Yes sir. No sir.'

DO NOT ask, 'Can you just give me a warning?' Instead, apologize.

Regards.

Regards-
Posted 1:25 AM EST December 05, 2007
Posted by: jlm338
TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF A TICKET, or: HOW TO BREAK THE LAW AND GET AWAY WITH IT
(Way to go KCRA, you're showing some deep morals there)
Posted 8:11 PM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: Kaelinda
I have a unique and original idea to help you get out of speeding tickets: DON'T SPEED. I'm 65 years old, have been driving since I was 16, and have never had a speeding ticket. That's because my mama and my papa taught me to obey the traffic laws. They told me that speed kills. I believed it. Of course, I was raised back in the day when it was common for kids to believe their parents, and it was common for parents to make rules they expected to be obeyed. Ah, sigh. Those days are long past, I guess - hence the unreasonably large number of speeders (or, at least, those defending speeders) posting a response to this article.
Posted 3:40 PM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: trafficcopper
As a police officer who's assignment is soley traffic enforcement and accident investigation I find the following true. In most cases I have only a few moments to size up the individual stopped to determing weather or not to issue a citation. There is nothing personal about any of it. If a citation is not issued then a warning is. It is all about changing ones behavior and trying to keep everyone safe. There is no sure fire way to get out of a ticket. Most of the suggestions in the artical really don't work. Have a nice day and dont drink and drive.
Posted 2:28 PM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: SquaredAway
My experience is this. I know several men and women that are members of there respective law enforcement communities. Some of them were jerks before joining the brass and the same remains true today. The same goes for drivers. Some of us have been driving for years and still classified as an insurance agents nightmare. So I think the bigger picture must be recognized. 'Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and.. when they fail in this purpose they become dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress.'
Posted 2:27 PM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: SquaredAway
I have read many of the post and remain indifferent. Sure cops don't make a lot of money but, are they more under paid than our nations educators. I don't think so. Did he or she choose that profession? Yes, as did the alleged violators elect to speed or violate other laws that are in place to protect everyone on the roads. People just need to learn to except responsibility. Sure cops have bad days as do drivers. But, it doesn't excuse shifty and unjust practices by some members of law enforcment.
Posted 1:46 PM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: kennth1971
***ADMIT TO SPEEDING BUT KEEP IT UNDER 10MPH TO AVOID REPORT TO INSURANCE****

I RECEIVED FOUR SPEEDING TICKETS A FEW YEARS BACK. IN EACH CASE I TOLD THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY/PROSECUTER I WAS SPEEDING BUT NOT AS FAST AS I WAS ALLEGED TO BE. THE COURT AGREED TO DECREASE THE SPEED UNDER 10MPH. USUALLY, THEY JUST WANT THE MONEY AND COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE SPEEDIN(UNLESS U WERE GOING OVER 20MPH WHICH IS WRECKLESS DRIVING AT THAT POINT-THEN YOU SHOULD BE FINED SEVERELY AT THAT POINT-YOU IDIOT!)
Posted 11:53 AM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: annon803
Wow, i swear, society just gets more ignorant each year. 'The cops are taking the money,' 'lets take our county back,' 'they are profiling.' The article is absolutely crazy, but the comments are even more crazy!!! I tell yall what, these guys who put their lives on the line every night to make sure yall's dumb butts can sleep somewhat well, they are the heroes. Police get absolutely NOTHING from tickets here in this county!!! Each year, they get about a 0.5 % to 2.0% raise. Which does not even cover a cost of living rise. Starting pay being around $12.00 an hour. That is ridiculous. This day in age, you cant live off that pay. That is why Police sometimes are rude. Cause they've been working 7 days straight working 3 jobs not getting to see their family just to make ends meet. And those who talk trash about the Police, then yalls day is coming.
Posted 7:43 AM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: fla1
There was a story on our local news last week. Our county collected $220 million from traffic violations. They haven't been paid twice that. On top of that we find out the Police collect 20% of the fees! If this was Wall Street it would be insider information. If it was the county tax collector that heard about a big property buy and bought up property because of is would be against the law too. So why do we allow the Police to make money off us? Aren't the fines to high anyways and they keep raising them. We have all seen them pull mom's out of the car, harass people, etc. I've had friends pulled over for window tint and they get hassled and searched. That's profiling and illegal and now we find out its all because the cops are getting money from tickets, yeah that's right no quota! I love the way they use words and terms! Now they want to put traffic cams up. They spent $35000 for cameras on I75 for less than 70 miles. We need our country back!
Posted 2:21 AM EST December 04, 2007
Posted by: bigrog505
Your screwed eaither way you speed you pay. they need money your going to pay... either way its a no one wins situation,,,except for them

thiss information is useless to me... I shave my head because I lok good but them scared guys they pull me over and no matter whta i did do or didnt do i will have at minimum a ticket if not be in custody,,,..
QUE VIVA PANCHO VILLA
Posted 11:28 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: llanglois1
I did a ride along with a police officer in WI and it seems to me that the police don't have to follow the laws cause they think they are above the law. not once during the the ride along did i see that officer put on a seatbelt or tell me to put one on
Posted 8:48 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: joejackman
What worked for my buddy is when the cop approched he said to the cop in a very loud and angry voice.

'What the hell is your problem!!.'

The cop said 'Have a nice day and left'.
Posted 8:42 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: Bonzpiper
Ok, tell me how I should have handled this one: One of our finest from Minnesota State Troopers fell in behind me on 35E headed north. I knew he had me 'spotted' immediately. He was travelling above the posted lmit and slowed down beside my rear bumper. I knew he was running my plate. It was a California plate. I was in a welding truck going to a job in Willow River, Mn. He trailed me for 70 miles, yes, 70! I had on the cruise set at the speed limit. Cars going around me out of sight. He runs off the side of the road a couple of times while tagging me. Finally, 70 miles down the road, we go down a hill. Speed goes to 72, cruise pulls it back down to 70. Mr. America pulls me, writes me a warning for two miles over posted limit, a bs tires too wide, and no proof of ins. Had ins and proof, checked on rules, tires NOT TOO WIDE! He put the dog on the truck to check for drugs. Found nothing, but that is what it was about from the start. What do YOU THINK?
Posted 7:53 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: 2fast2catch
cops are people. some are bias some are not...MOST are. its human nature. i have receaved 3 tickets in my life 2 speeding one seat belt. both speeding were under 10 miles an hour and i have never had a warning. what the hell? not one freakin warning. whatever though. oh and none of them cared that i was air force. not one...so there goes that theory.
Posted 6:42 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: jstonesue
I am a Driver's Ed Teacher (teens & adults)- 44,000+ people die in the USA annually (see www.nhtsa.org) (which is equivalent to 12.5 World Trade Center attacks). Those who receive tickets are lucky, they get a 2nd chance, those in the grave do not. The police did not write the laws, they are enforcing them b/c that is what we pay them to do. People who are ticketed should thank the police officer for helping them stop and think. Also, the article encourages people to lie which is wrong, where is honesty and ethics in this situation? Be humble and drive safe!
Posted 4:30 PM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: BIGT1
Here is the only sure fire way to get out of a speeding ticket: OBEY THE DAMN SPEED LIMIT!! If your speeding, you deserve the ticket so stop crying and pay your penalty.
Posted 9:27 AM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: shadysicilian
Here's one that has worked twice for me. When pulled over by a male officer I simply told him that my wife promised that if i got home before the children I would get lucky. I'm not sure how that would work on a female officer but I won't rule out trying it out one one. Even if she has no sense of humor I would be 1 for 3.... not too bad. I will say that my USMC sticker has instigated converstion with officers that are vets and has helped shift the tide in my favor.
Posted 6:32 AM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: polishmama
Copvan,
I have to laugh at your comment' And I do not write tickets to cops, army, veterans, or any people that serve this country.' So its ok that these ppl. brake the law.How would you feel if they were speeding and you stopped them and let them go and a mile down the road they were 'speeding' and killed some innocent person..So where ever u live you gave special treatment..Cops are all alike, worried about a 'quota'..Now hurry up, put on your blues, I heard dunkin donuts was having a special...geeezzz cops
Posted 2:03 AM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: vopokam
I think that it should be on the officer's p.o.v. to give tickets to everyone and anyone who violates a previously set threshold of offense by the officer. For example if you exceed 75 mph in a 65 mph zone, i don't want to see a hot girl get away without a ticket, while the cop sees a 23 year old who makes 3x his salary in a sports car and gives him a ticket no matter how nice he is. (after a couple of times, i started harassing cops and accept tickets happily knowing the end justifies the means). To add, if the pen was in my hands and some girl tried flirting to get out, it'd give me that much more reason to cite her.
Posted 12:13 AM EST December 03, 2007
Posted by: RDEVEAUX
'Talk your way out of a Ticket'. Interesting. However, imagine if you will trying a different approach: accepting responsibility for your own actions. What a concept! One breaks the law, one pays a fine. Radar operates on a very simple concept of Time and Distance, one of the most basic laws of Physics. And Lasers? Even moreso accurate.
Posted 10:56 PM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: menmygrls
Since this article is so popular. I'm hoping alot of people will read this and pass this information along. That third lane closest to the inside of the highway is often referred to as the fast lane. It is NOT. it is a passing lane for when you are traveling behind Ma and Pa Kettle doing 45 M.P.H. or an Emergency vehichle needs passage. The fact is, if you need to exceed the speed limit in order to pass someone YOU ARE SPEEDING. Moving to the inside lane so you can do 70 M.P.H. is not permitted and I'm tired of doing the speed limit in that lane and cars flashing their lights at me. Everyone knows flashing your lights so the guy in front of you will move can be effective. I wonder how many new drivers every year are told it's a passing lane NOT a speeding lane. PLEASE pass it on. Thanks Annette
Posted 1:48 PM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: quanda
> Cleavage does work. Last year my coworker, Speedracer, and I were driving to get lunch. She was doing about 65 in a 35. Officer McHunky flagged us over. I hiked the puppies up and when Officer McHunky looked into the car his eyes looked over his shades and were fixated on the cleavage. I said with a smile, 'Oh, Officer, if we had to get stopped for speeding, at least it's by a handsome hunk of a man like you!' He gave her a warning and asked for my number!
Posted 10:55 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: nhguru
I live in a small town where a close friend of mine is a Police Officer. One comment above who I believe is a Police Officer states that we need to take responsibility for our actions and that driving is a privilege. I agree 100%, however, is it always the case when a close friend or family member gets a ticket and that Officer calls in a favor to another officer and gets the ticket 'taken care of'. It happens everyday, lets make it an even playing field. If an Officer gets caught getting a favor from another Officer to get a family members ticket wiped out, both Officers should be subject to some sort of disciplinary action, and or fine of their own. Remember, your job as an Officer is to make the roads safer and to change peoples driving habits. Are you doing that every time Dad or your Brother gets a ticket and you get it 'taken care of'?
Posted 10:06 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: formermotorofc
I am a former motor officer and current Sergeant with a Police Department in the Southwest. I was quite entertained by most of the comments but my experience in issuing citations are as follow. I found that the woman who told me she was leaking and that was why she was speeding, received a ticket. Don't lie, make excuses or act totally surprised when you are pulled over. Be honest, accept responsibility and be polite. I wrote over 90% of those folks warnings. There are exceptions such as the habitual offenders and honest folks who just violated a school zone for example. I have a zero tolerance in that area. The constant is nice people get breaks. I never gave a break to anyone who was rude. They teach us in the police academy that you make up your mind to cite before contacting the violator, what a bunch of BS. I always made up my mind based on the contact with the violator.
Posted 10:02 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: TheKodeWarrior
I agree that there should be some flexibility with regards to citations and warnings. Not only am I a Veteran but I am also a RN/Paramedic. I have been licensed to drive in seven different states including the District of Columbia. In the Detroit area I have witnessed the worst driving habits I have seen anywhere. Many (I can't say most, but it sure appears that way) drivers do not yield to proper rescue and/or public vehicles, drive recklessly, and commit possibly harmful moving violations. I believe there should be no flexibility with a ticket. I understand courts are overwhelmed but how about taking some personal responsibility for your 'priviledge'? This is not a right and if those of you who continue to put themselves and others' safties at risk, you should perhaps reevaluate whether or not you deserve the priviledge to operate a motor vehicle at all. Driving laws are in place for everyone's safety, it's not negotiable.
Posted 9:55 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: bbmom58NH
If a member of my family has been stopped by the police there is a reason. We have teenage drivers in our household and if a ticket or a butt chewing makes them better and safer drivers than thank you to the law enforcement community. I would much rather have them get caught than to be the parent who gets a knock at the front door because they have been involved in a fatal accident.
Posted 9:41 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: k9thor
Listen, I'm a police officer and I can not afford a ticket anymore than the next guy or gal. We have a job to do. I look at it this way. My job is to protect the motoring public through changing of driving habits. If I can change someones driving habits through a warning or a ass chewing, have I done my job? The answer is yes. The person who gets a ticket is someone whom we all now through their Motor Vehicle records is a frequent flyer. If they have three warnings we have not changed there driving habits. They get a ticket. Its simple concept. Having said that, I know there are officers out there that give us all a bad name. Eveyone has a bad day. I'm sorry for that.
Posted 8:46 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: milb
Well, Marshall, I think most people find that not all cases warrant equal treatment as you suggest. I was given a break recently. I do not speed and have never received a ticket. Recently, I was late picking up my father who has Alzheimer's. I was distracted and crossed a line without signalling and was pulled over for making an illegal lane change. I did explain my situation and received a written warning. The result is that I remain more vigilant and hopefully a safer driver. Should I have received a ticket? Maybe, but what is your objective? To make the roads safer. An all sticks and no carrots approach isn't always necessary. I do think that much of the advice given in the article is sound particularly respecting the officer's position and treating him/her accordingly. The best way to avoid a ticket is to obey the law.
Posted 6:48 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: MarshallDillon
That's B.S. copVan. You can't be a good and honest man of the law when you discriminate as you just described. If you're breaking the law, cop or no cop, I write them up. I suggest you brush up on your ethics.
Posted 4:39 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: copVan
well, I am a police officer. Some ideas that I read above and ideas given by Lawyers are waste of time. I make my decision to write it or not even before I get to the vehicle. So, you go and figure it out. And I do not write tickets to cops, army, veterans, or any people that serve this country. GOOD luck hope I don't see you speeding.
Posted 2:33 AM EST December 02, 2007
Posted by: Grinchwithagun
For those reading this who are not police officers, the best advice is to know the laws of your state. I'm an officer in Virginia and quite of a few of the legal procedures discussed have NO bearing on a Va. ticket, (Two appearances for a traffic summons, for example... in Va., it's just one.) Trying to use the tips in this article and comments that don't apply to your ticket WILL annoy an officer or judge and weaken your case. And I don't know any officer who would give a break to a crying woman or one that shows cleavage, etc. It's insulting.
Posted 11:43 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: konali
Officers are just doing their job. Which is extremely dangerous especially during a traffic stop. No officers life is worth a $50 ticket which is why these need to be stopped.

There are no quotas, but they are judged on the amount of tickets they write. Traffic enforcement is not primarily about safety , but revenue generation.

Also, almost ALL posted speed limits are not legally posted according to federal laws.

The lack of driver training is the biggest problem that we have here in the US.

More real info: www . motorists. org
Posted 6:35 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: tronman
Why is the AutoBahn safer then U.S. Highways.

http://www.rapidcars.com/autobahn.php
Posted 4:09 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: FauxTail
Wow - this article and these postings have the largest amount of inaccurate information I've seen in one place in a long time. Here's a hint - your friends probably don't know any more about the law than you do unless they're an attorney, and even then unless they specialize in traffic law they're unlikely to know much more than you do about traffic laws (certainly less than the officer) without going to their law library. And no, the handbook they give you at DMV isn't the comprehensive guide to all the traffic laws in your state. The best way to keep from getting a ticket is to obey the laws, keep your car registered and insured and keep your operator's license up-to-date.
Posted 3:24 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: Kenecia
Inhabitant,
I agree with your comments; I was very impressed with something you said: 'Be the change that you want to see in the world.' That is a very challenging and profound statement. It made me think about many things I see wrong in our world. I will try to be that change. Thank you!
Posted 2:50 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: Lenarh
This article is the epitome of irresponsible journalism. An apology should be issued to the families of everyone who has ever died due to a speeding driver. And our police officers deserve better than having to put up with the manipulative antics described here. Speeding is dangerous and if tickets are deserved they should be faced up to honorably, not in the way described in this disgusting article.
Posted 1:49 PM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: rm1981
Mr Chatty and any other policemen and women, I want to thank each and everyone of you for serving and protecting us on a daily basis. If some of you need ways to talk yourself out of speeding or any other kind of ticket, then just obey the law. I am not a police person or have relatives whom are but I respect them. Yes I have got a couple of tickets in my time but I was guilty and paid the fines and just went on my merry way. Thanks!!!
Posted 11:42 AM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: DaiseyDrmr
jcourte, you obviously have some sexist issues. Is it not okay for a woman to be upset about getting a ticket? I probably would cry also because I have been driving for 15 years and never received one. I agree that you shouldn't let a woman off because she is crying, but you would also be wrong in letting her off for holding back her tears. I agree that people need to take responsibility for their actions. You must be one of those macho cops who thinks showing emotion is a sign of weakness. So would you let a guy off for crying or would you try testosterone race?
Posted 10:25 AM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: Inhabitant
If, in our Utopian world, we were to act as hostile as you we would be no better off than the wild west (which wasn't exactly perfect). Lets take a step back and learn to love each other instead of attacking and ridiculing. Be the change that you want to see in the world. What this world needs is a reset button. When our biases, steriotypes, differences, money, property, hate are forgotten what else are we but human? The person writing the ticket is no more important than the one in the drivers seat. When the world unlearns all the wrong, an officer will be nothing more than a helping hand. Every last one of us is tied together. We live on our finite Earth. Lets let our actions tell the story of humanity. We're all in the driver's seat.
Posted 10:24 AM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: jcourte
as a law enforcement person, any female that attempted crying definately recieved a citation from me! if your wrong,deal with it and accept the consequences.
Posted 9:40 AM EST December 01, 2007
Posted by: CasualReader
Well Tronman, in your scenario, since Jessieg is breaking into your house to steal your goods, but not hurting you, you make the decision to beat/maul/mame/kill her, then you are the one that is hurting someone and by following your own ideals of law, you would be the one to be incarcerated.

Or your drug scenario, people are raped and or killed daily due to drug use. If you are referring to marijuana, even most cops would probably agree that its ranks up there with beer, but show me a methhead who has never smoked weed...

Your thoughts are short sighted, wreak of juvenile angst, and generally are just bad decision making.

While standing on the other end of the spectrum from you, I do agree that we do have a lot of laws that are just plain goofy.
Posted 8:10 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
Mr Chatty,

I guess big brother forgot about the constitution. I can say anything I want.


Posted 7:45 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
Hey tronman, you might want to watch what you say on here... big brother might be watching...
Posted 7:35 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
LOL at radical liberal; honey, I'm so far from radical, I make moderates look like fascists. The only thing typical around here is how quickly SOME people are to throw labels on others. I'm assuming you don't have children of your own and apparently you are too old to remember what being a kid or teenager is like. No matter how involved parents are, there are things going on that they do not know about. That's life; we can't follow our kids around everywhere they go 24/7. That doesn't mean that it's our fault when someone takes advantage of that scenario, i.e. child predators and drug dealers. The predation upon children and bad parenting are totally unrelated. It's somewhat irrational for you to think otherwise.
Posted 7:17 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
jessieg

It is your responsibility to watch over your kids not the government typical radical liberal thinking, always using the kids as a scapegoat. As for breaking into my house I will be fine but you will not when there is a gun pointing at you. But, as you know government wants to try to take that right away as well the right to protect yourself.

Anyway back to what is being discussed earlier about police conduct. Here is a link that you should read. 3 ex-cops get heavy sentences in beating. If it was not for the media and technology such as the video camera and the internet this probably would have been blown over and no justice would have followed.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/nov/30/3-ex-cops-get-heavy-sentences-in-beating/




Posted 7:07 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
You're right. I guess I hadn't thought it through. Next time some drug dealer tries to talk our kids into trying some crack, let's just allow it. To punish him would be a gross governmental interference on him and his little enterprise. And since we're not taxing anybody either, why don't we just say 'screw you' to Veterans, the elderly, and the handicapped, since we will no longer be able to afford to provide services for them. And if I break into your house and steal some of your belongings, you don't have to worry about the cumbersome business of dialing 911, since I am not harming you. Some would argue that getting rid of your materialistic excess is actually beneficial to you, so there you have it. Sounds like a utopia to me!
Posted 6:38 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
jessieg

There should be one rule of law if you do not harm someone else then you should be able to do whatever you want. Too many laws interfere with our personal lives example if someone want to do drugs go ahead, or don't be taxing my inheritance that is not government money that is family hard earned money, etc.. anyway we are getting off track. Oh yes, I was fed too many vegetables.
Posted 6:31 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
Tron, you also have relatives who are cops, so it's fair to say you have a bias too. Maybe they picked on you too much or made you eat too many vegetables, who knows. As far as your dreams of anarchy go, no such system exists on earth and there's a good reason for it, such a system wouldn't work. Your ancestors decided that it benefited them to live in a society with rules and laws for reasons of personal protection and protection of property. By living in this society, you have made a social contract to abide by its rules. If you don't approve, you can either try to change the system, which is impossible, because you'll never gain a majority of support, or you can go inhabit some block of ice on Antartica and there you will have no government interference at all!
Posted 6:27 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
jessieg

I only mirror how the cop is acting towards me. I did not say all cops were like that you are not listening just most. But I do see now you have a bias because your hubby is in the academy. I prefer it to be like the olden days the wild wild west no government involvement in our lives whatsoever.
Posted 6:22 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
Hey Tron, I've been pulled over before and not once has a cop acted unprofessionally towards me. I would assume it's because I don't act superior to them as you apparently believe yourself to be. My husband is enrolled in the Police Academy and we have several cop friends and acquaintances and believe it or not, they are just normal people who are trying to do their job, which whether you think so or not, is a very necessary function in society. They aren't all evil power-mongering tyrants that you seem to believe them to be. Obviously when you approach them as such, they probably aren't going to go out of their way to be friendly to you. But guess what, when someone steals your car or beats you up, I guarantee you that with one phone call, these evil, murderous cops will be at your service with one phone call to help you in your time of need.
Posted 6:15 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
I like being a wise ass back at you chatty boy.
Posted 6:14 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
Maybe Mr Chatty, what did he do?
Posted 6:14 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
jessieg

You will eat those words when someday a cop acts unprofessionally towards you, it is no excuse because they work in a 'hostile environment.' If I was a cop and I am having a bad day maybe I will go out and pull someone over and I should just mouth off to them and hey maybe beat them while I am at it. You are making no sense.

Posted 6:08 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
I deal with it by being a wise ass to people like you... you make me laugh. BTW a Harris County PCT 6 Constable was shot and killed last night, do you think he was a wise ass and is now wondering why something happened to him tronman?? Do you think he deserved that??
Posted 6:07 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
Mr Chatty, All I can say what goes around comes around, just remember that.
Posted 6:02 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
Ummm.... ok, living with one and being one are two different things. Its kind of like listening to someone tell a story and actually being there living it. I doubt that you would have the same emotional reaction listening to someone tell a story rather than actually being there. Who said anything about China, and honestly I don't care if you respect me or my profession... how did we get from getting out of traffic tickets to civil revolt anyway?? Are you feeling oppressed by 'The Man'??
Posted 6:01 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
Tron, don't be such a simpleton. You expect cops to work in an often hostile, unforgiving environment and then shine your shoes when they stop to pull you over? You need a reality check. Don't pretend to know everything that cops go through on a daily basis just because you have family members who are cops. They are already working in a paranoid state because they never know if the next guy they pull over will blast them to smithereens or not. And most of the videos I've seen on youtube and liveleak about excessive force aren't true examples. A cop isn't going to go out of his way to be gentle when he's dealing with the eminent possibility of losing his life. It's not worth it.
Posted 5:53 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
One other thing thank goodness for technology because now the citizens can video tape and watch over the police and bring to the public all these years of abuse that have been going on, which we have already seen in the past. This should make police very paranoid to do their jobs professionally and like I said if you cannot deal with the everyday issues with being a police officer then maybe it is time for a career change.
Posted 5:50 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: jessieg
WOW, after reading these posts I now understand why cops have to act like jerks sometimes. Imagine having imbeciles constantly tell you how to do your job, as though you don't know your own rules and regulations that you've spent years reciting and reviewing. Hey! Here's a really great idea for getting out of a speeding ticket: DON'T SPEED! Is it really worth your life or someone else's just to get there a few seconds early?? At least if you're hard pressed to kill yourself, do it somewhere far away from me, because I'm not trying to get plowed over by all of you lunatics!
Posted 5:40 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen this isn't China.

Also, I know what it is to live with cops my own father and sister are one, so don't tell me about walking in cops shoes. They still need to respect the citizens otherwise there will another civil uprising in this country.
Posted 5:36 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
Very true sicboy, but was that before or after he got his beat down from the Hell's Angels and went crying to the cops?? Walk a day in a cops shoes tronman and you to will be a wise ass!!
Posted 5:30 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tronman
Most cops are wise asses and then wonder why people supposedly give them a hard time or wonder why something happens to them. If the cop wants respect from me you have to respect me as well.
Posted 5:25 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: sicboy13
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.
-Hunter S. Thompson
Posted 4:44 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: dejackdm
I honestly don't know the magic words to avoid getting a ticket however the last 5 out of 6 times that I was stopped the officers let me go without so much as a warning. I'm talking 4 speeding stops (1 for doing 95 on a 65 mph interstate; true), and 1 expired tags stop. I just did what the officers said and drove away ticket free. Unfortunately the 6th time wasn't a charm. dang!
Posted 4:37 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
And BTW, cities and counties are not allowed to fund themselves from traffic citations, just DOT truck inspections and narcotics busts. Most of the fines end up going to the state. There are no written quotas in police departments, it?s averaged on what your fellow Officers are doing. If you have 3 Officers that write 10 tickets a day and one that writes 2, he will probably be asked why everyone else is more productive than him. Call that a quota if you want but its performance based on other Officer?s activities.
Posted 4:22 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: Mr_Chatty
Most of the advice on this board is ludicrous... first of all running a license plate before being stopped is not illegal, how do you think we find out if your registration is expired when we're behind you. Second, Officers don't show up to the first court hearing, why would I show up to hear you say guilty or not guilty as if I care?? And third, crying, acting cute or oblivious, and name dropping will get you a ticket... all traffic stops are recorded now on both audio and video. So if you want to name drop on video for the judge to see that?s fine with me. And as for the overtime for court, I'm usually there for 15 min and get paid for 2 hours... most Officers don't really care if your found guilty or not. If you get pulled over for speeding and have no insurance, you still get the speeding ticket to show probable cause for the stop.
Thx,
You?re friendly neighborhood Officer
Posted 2:06 PM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: RuthsHusbandBen
When the patrolman turns his lights on, the best thing you can do is hit the gas! Most police rarely get a chance to let those squad cars open up and look forward for the oppurtunity to go Mario Andretti. Give em a run for a few miles. Maybe a couple of four-wheel drifts through traffic lights, a couple of Streets of San Francisco jumps, you get the idea.
When they finally pull you over, put the icing on the cake by running like hell. I guarentee that you won't be worrying about the points on you license after that!
Posted 9:07 AM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: tazz40
One of the first things the instructors taught us in the academy is discretion. All officers have the option to issue a warning or a citation. Your attitude and activity will help you more than anything. In most cases, the Police Department or county pays the officers time and half for court time, so don't count on the officer not showing up. Crying and name dropping can make it worse for you. The best thing is HONESTY! We were trained to tell you exactly why we pulled you over.
Have a safe day!
Posted 6:45 AM EST November 30, 2007
Posted by: ryle89
I'm in the Pennsylvania Army National Guard.. my recruiter gave me a tip that worked quite well. I got pulled over for doing 84 in a 55 on an interstate highway. As soon as I whipped out my wallet and had my Military ID CAC Card on top of my Driver's license, and made it noticeable as I was pulling out my license, it sparked conversation instantly between the trooper and myself. He was young (25) and just happen to have gotten out of the Army National Guard, serving under the same unit I was in. We also grew up in the same area. He reduced the charge to, 'failure to use hazard lamps on the side of a Highway' or something along those lines.

It was a textbook-militaryman-traffic stop. lol.
Posted 11:59 PM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: epbdad
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Posted 7:48 PM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: coolk9
If your stopped be nice. Careful who gives you advise. Some people say it's illegal for officers to run your plates before your stopped (not true) officers can run your plate anytime they want. It never hurts to ask for a warning. If its a motor officer or highway patrol your chances of getting out of it are much less. If you think your in the right take it to court. Careful with that if you have numerous violations on record, the judge may take your license for a couple months.
Posted 7:40 PM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: CasualReader
One of the most common complaints from law abiding citizens is speeding through their city, yet when officer's write tickets to the people that are speeding the officer is a 'prick' or some other misaligned word - its kind of a paradox we want the cops to enforce traffic laws, but not on us. Tickets are generally written to correct a detrimental behavior, a warning will change that behavior for about a week, while the ticket will correct the behavior for two weeks to a month (average, naturally some longer, some shorter). Most people probably don't know they have a headlight, tail light, blinker out until an officer tells them so - most of the time warnings are issued on equipment violations. The moving violations generally are issued citations, as its a bad and unsafe behavior (in some cases habits, like slowly rolling through a stop sign, instead of ceasing all movement).
Posted 11:02 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: TAG32
While it is true most officers show up at the court hearings, they do not always show up the second time. So when you go the first time, you should plead not guilty and then ask for a trial by judge. They will send you another date to show up and then when you show up, the officer more than likely will not show up. It worked for me!
Posted 10:22 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: scientifick
And also remember, in most states speeding tickets are the 'life-blood' of the police operating budget. That's why in most cases an issued traffic ticket has weak legs if you challenge it. Believe it. There is a quota!
Posted 10:19 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: scientifick
This suggestions in this article are 'WHACK'. The best thing to do is simply ask the officer why he/she pulled you over. Unless you are just plain old obtuse, you'll know why you were pulled over. But having him answer you will prove to be in your best interest. Because 9 out of 10 times. Unless you were speeding or something else that is obvious, you were probably pulled over because he/she ran your plates first(illegal). I had a nutcase officer tow my vehicle because he said I had a suspended licence. It was. But when I went to court, I asked the officer why he pulled me over and his dumb ass said 'I noticed your driverside headlight was out'. That jack-off didn't remember that he was behind me the entire time. Which meant he was illegally running my plate. I convinced the judge I would never knowingly drive without a valid license. It was dismissed and yes, my license was intact by the time I went to court.
Posted 10:05 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: HomoHirsutus
If you do get a ticket, always go to court. Your first court appearance is not a trial, just the time you show up to declare not guilty, or no contest. If you plead not guilty, you have to go to a trial. If you plead no contest, you are still going to have to pay the ticket and get the points, but the judge has the ability to make changes to the fine and points. In the instances I went to court, the judge gave everyone who showed up a 5mph reduction of the speed stated on the ticket claiming speedometers can be off by that much. This drops your fine to a lower bracket, and reduces the points assessed. Its worth the effort.
Posted 7:07 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: Cops-Everywhere
Thanks for the heads up. Will be sure to pass it on.
Posted 4:50 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: blowssmokerings
everything mentioned in this article is the truth. pulled over one evening on my way home by a small town officer, whom I owe a great big hug to. Even though my cigarette butt was smoldering in the ashtray I wasn't in the posistion to be defiant, I had been drinking. So, of course I was asked to submit to sobriety tests, and a breath test. Nothing less than what is to be expected, but afterall is said and done. He took me to the nearest pay phone where he allowed me to call my father to come and get me, as well as, move my car. Eat your hearts out Paris and Lindsey. A normal person got out of it and you didn't. HA! Trust me when I say lesson learned. WHEW!! Just as it mentions is how you should act accordingly.
Posted 12:16 AM EST November 29, 2007
Posted by: ichiro54
Why do ppl keep saying, 'just don't speed, obey the law!' First off have you ever gotten a speeding ticket? I already know the answer is YES! Will you probably get another speeding ticket in your lifetime? The answer is an overwhelming probably YES! Spare us this preachy crap about 'just obey the speed limit'. In any case, thank you to all who have provided hints on how to avoid getting a ticket, it's been helpful. I for one have always been intrigued on what the cops are thinking and how to manipulate the situation to your advantage.

Btw- it's not always that easy to just obey the speed limit. On some days when I'm driving down 101 southbound between Veterans Blvd in Redwood City and Marsh Road in Palo Alto the average speed of *ALL* the cars approaches 80mph. No way in hell I'm doing 60 when everyone else is doing 80.
Posted 6:04 PM EST November 28, 2007
Posted by: nolajy
THIS IS HOW YOU BEAT A SPEEDING TICKET! TRUST ME IT WORKS. Okay.. very few police offciers will give you more than one ticket if you are being polite. They pull you over for speeding. 1. get your license and registration out! DO NOT GIVE POLICE INSURANCE CARD!! The officer will ask for it.. um say I just got insurance, but I cannot find my insurance card anywhere! iN MOST STATES IT IS AMUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND HIGHER POINT TICKET FOR LACK OF INSURANCE.. the officer thinks.. forget the speeding ticket.. you are getting a no insurance ticket! Tell offcier you are so sorry .. then go to court and verify you had insurance!!! ha ha ha .. works like a charm. life's a game play hard and win
Posted 4:43 PM EST November 28, 2007
Posted by: railrider98
How about...not speeding or driving like an idiot, and avoid having to use these so called 'tactics'
Posted 2:02 PM EST November 28, 2007
Posted by: keikosmom
I think I would burst into tears; I am intimidated by officers. Never done a crime; middle class upbringing; however, one time when I was stopped (I was driving a VW bug of a different color that the one used in the burglary - but had all kinds of cleaning tools in the car - yes, they did fit), I was just embarassed and irritated. I had to wait until my license number was cleared and I was moving into the town that day and sure everyone would remember me. A small town that fairly big doesn't have everyone knowing everybody. LOL
Posted 11:14 AM EST November 28, 2007
Posted by: JonDough
All you people that say, don't speed and you won't get a ticket! Waht a joke! Cops in small towns are out to increase thier town's revenue by any means they can think of.
Even when you go to court and prove you weren't speeding, they still slap court costs on you. They WILL get your money one way or another!
Bottom line?
Not ALL cops are a$$holes...just 99.9% of them.
Drive safe.
Posted 12:05 AM EST May 04, 2007
Posted by: ballajoh
Well first of all, don't speed and you won't have a problem. But we all do it and at some point in time you get pulled over. I have done many ride-a-longs with police on patrol and I am going to school to be police officer, but what I have found is just be honest and respectful to the officer, answer all questions and remember that they are people to, but don't use sex appeal (ladies)!!!
Posted 7:52 PM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: xtremecoach
And I too do not believe in crying or showing cleavage to get your way out of a ticket. I am sure most police officers are on to that tacky tactic. I also read where someone would try to hand the officer a 50 dollar bill!!! That could get you in worse trouble yet by trying to bribe an officer of the law! That would not fly in my town! Drive safely everyone!!!!
Posted 7:52 PM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: xtremecoach
FUNNY STROY I WANT TO SHARE

I recommend highly that you address the police man or woman as 'officer' as I will never forget the time when I was in a different city and addressed the officer that pulled me over as 'sir' and when I received my written ticket it was a woman officer who looked like a man! LOL

Posted 3:07 PM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: CaptObvious
Cops don't just pull people over. The easiest way to get out of a ticket is simple. Don't violate traffic laws. Laws are not enforced to hassle us, they are enforced to protect us. Making the roads safer is everyones responsibilty. At some point in time we need to take responsiblity for our actions, instead of trying to get out of it or blameing someone else.
Posted 2:46 AM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: lauraleefun
I live in an area where you are lucky if the person driving next to you has a licence or insurance! I would have been nice if I was cut a break, since I always maintain both, and pay my registration every year!
Posted 2:45 AM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: lauraleefun
I received my 1st ticket in 27 years for going through a yellow to red arrow. I was wrong and since I hadn't had a ticket in so many years I asked for a warning- even though the officer was polite I got one just the same.
Posted 1:04 AM EST May 02, 2007
Posted by: kameo
i am always polite,when they ask me if i know why i was pulled over i usually say no sir,or officer. then when they tell me, i always say like my kids were crying in the back seat and i was trying to calm them down i am so sorry i didnt realize i was speeding.then i get off with a warning.but usually the excuses are ligit. and all the times i have been pulled over has been for speed. but again if polite to the officer, they have always shown me the same respect.
Posted 6:49 PM EST May 01, 2007
Posted by: mallsu
So I find being that being a fairly large chested female that if you show i little bit of clevage that it has gotten me out of quite a few tickets. Not saying thats the best things to do, or that it always works. I am saying that it has never failed me!!!
Posted 4:51 AM EST April 28, 2007
Posted by: arete1
My Advice...

1. Dont ever admit guilt

2. Dont ask for their notes(reminds them to show up)(that goes for calibration information because honestly they are all calibrated and that defense wont ever work) 'side note who checks the calibration unit to see if it is calibrated correctly :-)

3. Go to court
4. Pay your fine, the court always sides with the officer(unless they dont show) other times they may reduce your fine.
Posted 4:45 AM EST April 28, 2007
Posted by: arete1
In my experiences, I have always been completely honest, polite, and respectful in every possible way. I have been issued a ticket EVERY time. Honesty just gives them extra proof on your court date; respect never got me any in return(when i get pulled over its always the power trip cop who never went to college); polite well you should jus be polite to everybody anyway. They pulled you over they are gonna issue a ticket(.)
Posted 2:28 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: Tressamay29
Ok for all you Officers out there....Stop running in front of cars to get them to pull over. I have seen this so many times. Are you crazy? What if, it is someone with drugs or drunk or something and they run you over. Then all you would be is a human speed bump. It would be safer to use your car or your radios to do the speed traps. Or should I say 'legalized extortion'?
Posted 2:00 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: OfficerSky
It is encouraged that every individuals to have their day in the court if you are ticketed, because it will be very hard to prove that you are guilty. Don't even waste your $50 with an attorney, you're better off representing yourself in traffic citations, whether its to ask the officer to produce proof or the 500ft rule.
Posted 1:59 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: OfficerSky
When an officer stops you it is merely trying to fulfilling their stats, nothing personal. Just keep quiet and don't say or do anything that will be used against yourself. They have done their jobs. To prove if you're guilty in court is another story.
Posted 1:59 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: OfficerSky
There are stats for writing speeding tickets, do building checks, etc. and they have to log wherever they have been, incase something unfortunate happens so others can backtrack. If they cannot write down they will always radio in.
Posted 1:58 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: OfficerSky
No current or former police officer in this blog mentioned that how you measure job effectiveness of an officer...well, it is by writting tickets. Officer works on 'Stats' which are kind of like quotas that they have to work on for the month, and they have to meet close to that requirement (usually about 80% or more) or there will be trouble from their Captains for not doing their job.
Posted 1:30 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: bugmenot123
Furthermore on the radar/500ft thing. The law states if its done, the evidence cannot be used in court. No evidence of speed, no way to convict. The law also has different fines based on the speed you were going. They can't just use that the officer visually saw you going faster than normal. It needs to be an exact speed.
Posted 1:27 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: bugmenot123
...CONT...

One town here had the limit drop 5mph every block from 45 to 30. So, for about 3-4 blocks they cant run radar but they do it all the time. Also, another town has a limit of 15mph on the road that circles the mall. Lowest allowed limit in this case is actually 25 (and could maybe be argued to be 35).
Posted 1:27 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: bugmenot123
I see quite a few comments like 'just obey the speed limit'. Well, many times, those speed limits are posted too low and sometimes posted low enough to be illegal. Check the laws of your state if you get a ticket. There are many ways to LEGALLY get out of a ticket in court. For example, in Illinois, RADAR cannot be run withing 500 feet of a change in the speed limit. This is to give you the ability to slow down or speed up to that limit.
Posted 12:42 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: Trueper1
As a police officer, I don't want to hear anything that sounds like an excuse. I know what I saw and if I think you didn't commit an offense you'd still be on your merry way. Be polite and cooperative with the officer b/c the judge will ask him later if you were and take the ticket. Regardless of whether you think you did it or not. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Also try obey the traffic laws in the first place, and this topic wouldn't be necessary!
Posted 12:36 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: jack00
you gotta be born girl to make your smiles save you a ticket...
Posted 12:30 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: MCGUYVER
[1]PLEAD NOT GUILITY AND{2} TAKE IT TO COURT SOME TIMES THE COP DOSENT SHOW UP
{3}GET A LAWYER ANOTHER THEN ASK WHEN THE RADAR GUN WAS CALABRATED
Posted 12:25 PM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: the_clap
I hear that the best thing to do is try to think of a religious activity you could be going to. When the officer tells you that you were speeding or whatever, just say something to the effect of, 'I'm sorry officer, I was late for (religious activity). It won't happen again.'

It's not guaranteed to work, but it often does. If they don't seem to buy it, just drop the topic completely. There's almost no hope after that.
Posted 11:44 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: bluefawn
Cops will stop you whether you deserve it or not.I have been stopped 4 times in 1 year.I was only speeding ONCE. Pay an attorney & he'll go to court for you.I paid him $50.&court costs of $90 each time with nothing on my record & no ins. points/increases.MAKE THEM SHOW YOU THE RADAR.Also the court added $7.50 from MY pocket to the cops'PENSION FUND on all 3 tickets I paid off.If you want a good paying job, be a cop.You can stop anyone anytime for any reason & get by with it.
Posted 9:15 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: InsLady
By going to traffic school does not necessarily remove the ticket from your record, just the points that you would receive. If you get a ticket on your record, your insurance co. will still probably charge you. They don't look at what points you have, they look at the violation itself. Make sure it is part of the deal you are making with the traffic school that they do remove the entire ticket from your record and not just the points.
Posted 8:48 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: valval3
I've gotten out of two tickets by being nice to the officer! Just by being kind, smiling and telling the truth (No, I did not realize how fast I was going.) I apologize and vow to slow down. Seems to work!
Posted 8:32 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: leekayfabe
It does not matter what you say or even how you are driving. If the police want to give you a ticket, they will. In my 20 years of driving, of the 3 tickets I have received, two of them I was completely innocent.
Posted 8:26 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: leekayfabe
It does not matter what you say or even how you are driving. If the police want to give you a ticket, they will. In my 20 years of driving, of the 3 tickets I have received, two of them I was completely innocent.
Posted 8:17 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: bigdogpete43
We all know this is just another form of taxation. Pay your road tax and go on. I drive thru a neighborhood each night coming home, filled with crack dealers, hookers, and infamous for violence. When I get on the interstate, almost always there is a cop sitting there, looking for people that are driving 5 miles over the speed limit. Obviously, the priorities are hosed.
Posted 5:08 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: PPTT
I am a Police Officer.My mind is made up be for I get to the window.Ecuses and begging will not work. you were caught.if you come to court and try to play a lawyer from Law&Order you will only aggrevate the judge.
Posted 3:16 AM EST February 01, 2007
Posted by: panique
The absolutely best way to avoid speeding tickets is to install a Valentine One Radar Locator. It has saved me on numerous occasions, especially since I now live on a canyon road in suburban Los Angeles, where the cops run a speed trap 3-5 times weekly.
Posted 11:13 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: afd0
Rule #1. Make sure that ALL lights on the vehicle are operational. Prevent a reason to be stopped. This means - most importantly - the license Plate lamp(s). Fact: People that ignore headlamp(s) burned out and license Plate lamp(s) not working also allow Driver Licenses and registration to expire and in addition - a percentage are driving without the states mandatory Vehicle Insurance. Rule #2. Try using the turn signals as required by law. Again - do not provide a reason to be stopped.
Posted 6:27 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: Arnold24
My opinion is if you are rolling in benton county you might as well just obey the laws, or they will just stick it to you. No matter if you cry or whatever. Also dont try to pay the cop off, that will land you in JAIL!!!!

Jen
Posted 5:59 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: hipacgirl
The best way to not get a ticket, is to obey the speeding laws. Also, officers often pull over people whom they feel are acting suspciously, or driving erratically. A piece of advice, if you happen to get a smart alec (and yes, officers are imperfect people just like you and me), resist being smart back. Nowadays most patrol cars have video cameras, so not only what the officer said or did to you is on tape, you're on tape also. Peace
Posted 5:44 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: abbyful
(cont.)

I wasn't trying to be manipulative, I was just extremely nervous. That was when I was in college, and it wasn't 100% all about the ticket, but also I was scraping by being able to pay rent and buy food, I started thinking 'where do I get money to pay the ticket?' and 'will my insurance go up?'.
Posted 5:44 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: abbyful
'Sometimes girls cry not because they are acting 'childish' or 'manipulative' My first ticket i started bawling the second i saw the lights. I was in no way trying to get out of it, I just couldnt control myselt any other way.'

I agree with this. I've been pulled over a couple times and tried so hard to not cry by biting my lip or whatever; but by the end of it, it's really hard not to (especially the very first time I was pulled over).

(cont.)
Posted 5:05 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: REBELX1
As a former police officer, I was never into writing speeding tickets simply because I had a problem writing a traffic citation for a violation that every law enforcement officer violates both on duty and off duty. You show me a law enforcement officer that has never committed such an offense, and I will show you a liar. Being polite and honest to a cop does not always work...some cops are simply d**kheads.
Posted 5:04 PM EST January 31, 2007
Posted by: marwilkie
Aren't the speed limit signs simply a suggestion of how fast/slow to drive?!?! just joking.

Seriously, most police officers would rather NOT have to stop or write you. So, just be polite, do as you are asked and accept your consequence for your actions.

They wouldn't have stopped you if you hadn't broken the law.
Posted 5:34 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: praetor_100
As a recently retired state trooper, my advice is to be honest with the police officer in every regard, admit your mistake freely, not show any disrespect whatsoever, and not engage in any denial, argumentative behavior. Kindness, respect, and honesty always went a long way with me and my colleagues. Sometimes, though, a police officer has no choice and must issue a citation.
Posted 4:33 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: bobber33
Cont'
Setting speed traps and pulling people over is not an effective measure. In the last 3 years I have lived in Northern Califonia, I have yet to see any improvement at all. Officers are still doing the same thing, nothing has changed...So an officer wants to tell me he's doing his job? Um yes you are but not EFFECTIVELY! Like I said, is your objective to reduce traffic problems, or make money?? or because you can't think of a better way?, or to lazy to try a better way?
Posted 4:32 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: bobber33
Cont'
Us citizens and young citizens talk a lot, when a certain place is being patrolled all the time, we always know. That just moves the speeding to another area...then to another area....effective?? I don't think so....
Posted 4:30 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: bobber33
Cont'
This puts officers in a position to answer with whether or not their practice is effective in reducing violations. No where does it say that writting tickets and setting up speed traps is the only measure and solution. A lot of times this goes on and on until they find another spot to hit. Their objective is to REDUCE....right???....or is it to make money??
Posted 4:29 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: bobber33
Whomever wrote 'there is no quota' is correct. But what us citizens don't know is officers are EXPECTED to write and match the number of tickets being written in a certain area. The watch commander is who puts the pressure. To little and you are questioned about your practice, to much and you are questioned about your practice.
Posted 3:12 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: Majick2
Part 4

I was even involved in a hit and run accident while I was transporting 16 handicapped children. I have no sympathy for someone who is pulled over and gets a ticket. And I will admit that i have been pulled over myself for speeding. It was my fault and I paid my dues. So should everyone else
Posted 3:11 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: Majick2
Part 3

I'm a former school bus driver/trainer and I hate it when I had to retrain someone who got a ticket or was in an accident and they would blame the cop, or say 'we did it that way in (fill in the blank).'
Posted 3:08 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: Majick2
Part 2
Instead of trying to talk your way out of a ticket, drive safely in the first place. Be aware of your surroundings at all times and drive defensively. Cops are trying to protect us, not be mean or see how much money they can get out of us.
Posted 3:08 PM EST January 30, 2007
Posted by: Majick2
Part 1
First and formost, i think it's terrible that someone thinks it's okay to teach people how to talk their way out of a ticket. People who get tickets are driving in a dangerous manor and should be punished, and should be adult enough to accept their punishment.
Posted 1:09 PM EST January 29, 2007
Posted by: LANCE96816
I had just gone through a divorce and had this sign on my back:

Ex got house, van, kids and dog,
Somebody please kill me.

Cop clocked me @ 97MPH... Didn't get a ticket... But he did follow me to the nearest hospital, and had me check in.

Posted 6:44 AM EST January 29, 2007
Posted by: love2teach
I would like to say thank you to all the brave and helpful police officers out there. For the most part I have always tried to do the speed limit and be careful when driving. I received one ticket in my life when I was about 17 yrs. old. So, over 25 years I have had no tickets. That one ticket scared me so bad (and yes I cried - not on purpose)but I still got a ticket. However, I learned from that experience.
Posted 12:32 AM EST January 29, 2007
Posted by: Roboronn
I am a PO & crying gets you a ticket. Honesty/kindness go along way, they don't get you out of all tickets, but usually help get breaks for no proof of insurance, seatbelt, ect. Speeders who are nice with a good record get a break by a reduced speeding ticket. Red lights and stop sign violations never get a break because they are very dangerous and can result in death or serious injury.
Posted 10:57 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wingsoffreedom911
For singingjim and tkwigg fyi im talking about people that are passing in the left going the speedlimit and someone comes up behinde them going way to fast..and yes it does kill when your the one driving like a idiot and cant stop.i see accidents all the time from 18 wheeler on down, if the truth hurts or i touched a nerve then you need to slow down or the next pic i take of a wreck will be you!
Posted 10:38 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: brendog
I'm sure there are a lot of ways to 'get out of a ticket,' but there are two sure ways, follow the rules of the road and maintain your vehicle. You don't have to pay a ticket that you didn't get. I am also a police officer and I have heard just about every excuse under the sun. In the end, I'd rather write you a ticket than catch up to you at the hospital after an accident that your excuse didn't prevent.
Posted 8:50 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wave16

-use your cruise control to set your speed 7mph over the limit, this will allow you to make good time without getting pulled over.
Then increase your speed temporarily when people go faster by you, but don't go 20 over that's stupid.

-be extra cautious late at night when the roads are bare, the cops are just waiting for you, and have nothing to do but eat donuts and pull over people.
Posted 8:49 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wave16


- the things you can buy online about asking the officer all kinds of questions about the radar gun require so much work, and I think the judge would just give you a harsher sentence if you used these tactics, though I've never tried or seen anyone try. (search the peer to networks for this if you want a free copy)

Posted 8:49 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wave16


- if they don't pay the 'driving tax' unless you really want an entertaining day wasted in court with a judge who simply sides with the cops, no matter what. You will never get out of a ticket unless you have some kind of smoking gun video showing your speed or something. I've sat through numerous attempts and have never seen anyone win. Some places reduce your fine if you don't contest the charge.
Posted 8:48 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wave16


-check with the DA where your summons is and ask if they 'negotiate' your speed. (some do some don't) which will reduce your fine.

Posted 8:47 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wave16
-remember to stash your radar detector before the officer pulls up right behind you. They love giving tix to people with detectors on the dash, I've even been pulled over just because I had one.


Posted 5:57 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: tkwigg
FYI, By not letting faster traffic to pass, a traffic violation is committed. There are signs that say 'slower traffic keep right'. By refusing to comply with the 'Flash to Pass' etiquette standard, you are violating defensive driving laws. It is not the job of motorists to inhibit others from doing something reckless like speeding. That is for Law Enforcement. Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that result's from another act of stupidity while speeding. Dont be that second act.
Posted 4:37 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: singingjim
Hey wingsoffreedom911, maybe those drivers are blowing past you because you're doing 45 mph in a 65 zone. Just move out of the way so that those of us who know how to drive safely can get where we need to go. This goes out to all of you idiots who are driving 60 mph in the left lane and holding up traffic because you think you're traffic vigilantes. Cut the crap and get to the right and quit your whining. Slow drivers suck.
Posted 1:17 PM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: wingsoffreedom911

I watch people pass me like I'm standing still. They think cause its the fast lane they can go as fast as they want to or get right up behinde someone flashing their lights like idiots. If you don't want a ticket drive right. Officers don't really have a choice they have the camera's in thier cars they are being watched doing their jobs, to protect them and you..give them a break before you kill yourself or some innocent child or person..
Posted 11:53 AM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: bconneely
These 'tips' are old, tired tactics that have been around since call boxes were in use. Anyone who promotes their use is simply trying to make money off some poor misguided soul. Whenever I encounter someone doing any of those things on one of my stops it stiffens my resolve to issue a citation. Playing dumb after commiting an obvious moving violation will, at best, make the driver look careless to the officer.
Posted 9:01 AM EST January 28, 2007
Posted by: themannster
I can tell you with the presence of video cameras in cruisers you would do better to pay the fine and get on with your life instead of wasting the day sitting in court hoping the cop forgets to show up.

I get notified when someone was a jerk on a traffic stop. They wil go to see you get convicted. After all they get paid overtime to be there, how much are you making off your appearance?
Posted 5:40 PM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: splinter438
I would suggest being calm don't overreact. There are times that you truly may not have seen the violation you committed but the officer saw you. Don't think or assume the officer is dumb or stupid because he has the pen that can make life very hard. Driving is a privilege not a right and life is precious so your mistake could mean someone's life or your own.
This is coming from a traffic officer who has seen the worst and lost many friends.
Posted 3:48 PM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: venromeroven
Hey Guys,

In Venezuela I just put roughly a 4$ note behind my lisence. Just like my Dad in the fifties. In the staes my Venezuela lisence is approved under international law. If it aint bad they do not want the hassle. So if you can pass a foreign language test do it, I got pulled over for road rage and the officer said what would you do in your country if someone pulled a gun, I said I would run him over. Ebd of conversation.
Posted 3:11 PM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: trevorgroup
what is really amazing is the fact that the police will ticket us for the same offenses they committ on their own time, but they never get ticketed themselves due to the fact that they are part of the 'brotherhood'. Police never ticket each other for any violations. Maybe they should remember how they drive themselves when they are quick to get out that ticket book and write us up.
Posted 1:23 PM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: biscuit282
Don't pull a 'Jimlea' and check for spelling errors in a trivial internet posting (by the way check your punctuation there, Tiger), but the best way to buy yourself a warning is to be honest and courteous. Don't read that as a way to get out of anything. How blatant/dangerous was your offense? What is your driver's history like? If you did it, you did it. Get over it. If you want to talk to a judge about it, go ahead you have the right. Two cents is all this is worth.
Posted 1:13 PM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: jtzy
I am a minority and used to have a loud,fast sports car when I was in my early 20's. I've gotten pulled over a few times cause of that(not speeding). They all expected me to be some thug and come to my car with an aggresive attitude. I always voluntered info on my life. (I am in college,I work here,I was coming from here and going there.etc..)Cause of my total respect under pressure and expressing my goals in life I beleive thats why I didnt get any tickets or ever physicaly touched.
Posted 11:03 AM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: traffic123
Im a traffic officer and everyone I stop I cite. I give 15 over and you know you are speeding.I think 15 over is being very fair. When you see as many collisions due to speed as me you would slow down also. So to keep from gettin a citation .....slow down drive safe,
Posted 9:41 AM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: da_climber
A cops attitude and personality are different just like anyone else. You have to wait to see what his or her attitude and personality is like after they approach you. If he seems friendly a little small talk doesn't hurt- a little mind you.If he acts like a man eating tiger shut up and give him the information he asks for and no more.Im either instance be polite and honest. Don't exit the car without his approval and, yes keep your hands in his view.
Posted 3:50 AM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: Kelleyh
I used to be a cop. Yes, be honest, but don't agree or admit that you broke the law. The best way to get a cop to let you slide: Tell him something he hasn't heard before, make him laugh! 1 example: I stopped a biker once who was speeding. He was obviously drunk, but he lived about 2 miles away. I asked him how much he had to drink that night, and he said 'I don't know, I lost count at about 14 beers'.. Caught me so much by surprise (everybody says 'a couple'), I let him go.
Posted 2:34 AM EST January 27, 2007
Posted by: Riddick51PB
me, first thing i do is turn on all interior lights, so he can see what is in the car. then, when he is at my window, i ask for his approval on every move i make. say i have to get into the glove box for the registration, i'll state clearly in an easygoing tone: 'i'm going to open the glove box and get my registration.' the officer responds 'Okay.' and this gives the officer time to position himself and watch your move to the glovebox.
Posted 10:27 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: chaos2020
With all due respect, police THP and sherriff's cars are equipped with blue or blue and white lights ... not red!
Posted 9:28 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: carlslingblade
Cops hate name drop etc. B HONEST, use good manners. Bad attitudes, quick moves can cost u. If u r wrong, ask 4 mercy. Once worked 4 city boss who forced Cops 2 write tickets. PDs have many ways 2 fire Cops, so pressure is real. Rulebook is Chief's weapon to force u. Cops hate such things. Some Cop Unions good but states make strikes illegal so Cops lose. N court b clean & dress good as u can. Judge is Your Honor. Use best attitude. If record is good, ask 4 drive class or mercy. RETIRED COP
Posted 9:28 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: debbiespencer40@earthlink.net
I didnt get a ticket for 20 years by obeying the law.
I recently got pulled over didnt know why it turns out my license plate light was out. Found out my licence were suspended It was a complete mistake and was fixed within a day and I still have to go to court for the light. things happen for a reason I would never have known about the suspension if I hadn't been stopped.
You should always obey laws they are there for a reason and if you don't you should be punished
Posted 8:51 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: jeriArtist
I agree with Bliggaz52. And Ms. Kelli Grant is ridiculous. I dated the commander of the vice squad in a large city. He would slam Grant's article. He said 'If you are wrong, you are wrong. Be honest; put your elbows on the steering wheel, don't move, be polite and it will pay off in the long run. I did what he said when I caused a fender bender. The 2 officers told me it was 'refreshing' to hear my honesty.
Posted 7:11 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: troop4u
WRONG!!!!!!!! If you did it say you did it!!! Judges on the shore will cut you down like a tree in court in front of everyone. You are better to plead guilty even if you are not sure of your speed. You tie up alot more time pleading not guilty. It make makes the judge very mad. Trust after being in law for 10 yrs.
Posted 5:02 PM EST January 26, 2007
Posted by: deiul
Well after 68 moving violations from doing 154 in a 70 to impersonating a police officer, I have a totally clean record. So from alot of experience the article does make some valid points, the most tho, has to be PLEAD NOT GUILTY if there are points involved ALWAYS fight your tickets!! Especially if you dont know any of the cheese force. Luckily i live in vegas now and its pretty much impossible to get a ticket here!!! watch out for me wheelin past u suckers!!
Posted 11:10 AM EST December 13, 2006
Posted by: megalomaniacal
hey kailey,
here is a tip for you. if you cant afford food for your house then why are you purchasing new cars? i have no sympathy for you, and i hope the judge throws the book at you and fries you for endangering your child by driving so fast and reckless.
Posted 8:09 AM EST December 13, 2006
Posted by: covboys
Over here in England we have automated speed cameras pretty much every few miles in built up areas and now they are on our motorways. Not only do we have to put up with $120 fines and points on our licenses for being 1 or 2 mph over the limit, but in certain cases, accident rates have gone up as people spend more time looking at their speedometers than looking at the road. The police still maintain it saves lives, but its quite apparant its a 'stealth tax'.
Posted 6:13 AM EST December 13, 2006
Posted by: Bliggaz52
Was the person that wrote this article a cop? The answer is no. Crying does not work, playing dumb does not work, making excuses does not work and pretending to be a lawyer does not work. Heres something you people should try; OBEY THE LAW. Then you wont have to worry about getting a ticket. People are so insistant on beating the system. Those who read this article and believe it will get them out of a ticket have another thing coming.
Posted 3:17 PM EST November 29, 2006
Posted by: r415
Every itme I get pulled over, I 'don't have' my insurance card. Since this is most time the most serious offense, I usually get a ticket for not having ins. Then I go to court and show proof of it and get out of the ticket. Sounds like a pain, but has worked every time for me!
Posted 1:33 AM EST November 24, 2006
Posted by: C4COP
We can talk all day and decide to be nice or not but in the end the video will tell it all. I love the expressions when someone acts stupid, claims innocent then see's them self lieing or acting a fool on video. Not knowing if a camera was on me or not, think if I were to get stopped I'd just be calm & cool. I'd be honest not matter what.
Posted 10:46 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: militaryman
Join the military... I have been pulled over 3 times in 2 months and was let go twice and got a warning the other time, tickets are rarely given to military personnel.
Posted 9:50 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: PrettyJC
Being honest and polite doesn't help. I was driving too close behind a semi truck and couldn't see the light changing and ended up running a red light. I apologized for not seeing the light. He didn't let me go with a warning, he just gave me advise not to drive too close behind the trucks and gave me a ticket. There was another incident,I was being honest and still got a ticket and I really didn't know that I couldn't do that. For now on, I'm not polite because I will get a ticket anyway.
Posted 9:24 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: Jimlea
One only has to look as far as the e-mails submitted by law enforcement officers to realize that if you can't spell the most basic of words or construct a simple phrase, you most likely can't interpret the law correctly when it comes to enforcement and ticket writing. Attention to detail is an important attribute in law enforcement and most of these 'cop' e-mails serve only to expose their lack of the same.
Posted 9:02 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: DetroitMedic
How about not speeding in the first place? There is no reason to speed, ever. I work in EMS and constantly have to deal with vehicle accidents resulting from speeding. You drive too fast, you drive wreckless. Your stop time is reduced, your reaction time is reduced, and you end up hurting people. Police have a job to do, and they deserve the respect of honesty. They're writing you a ticket because you did something stupid. They're trying to keep you and other people alive.
Posted 6:13 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: C4COP
I too am a Police Officer and agree with the others that crying or breing dishonest will get you no where but a ticket. If you want respect you have to give respect. There are too many people that like to play games and lie as it is and that causes our job to be that much tougher. As for quota's, in my department there is NO SUCH THING. You get caught breaking the law you get delt with one way or the other.
Posted 12:32 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
part 6
I didnt try to use any manipulation or tactics just my honesty and kept my cool for my daughter (4) sake in the backseat in horror seeing mom upset.Im 43 and havent had a ticket in at least 20 years so this is very unsettling for me.I am certainly going to fight this and Im sure the law will not be on my side.Any suggestions/comments are welcome.
Posted 12:32 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
Part 5
Not even a caring voice or compation he continued to right me up for no insurance and going 50 in a 35 not to mention I heard that the State of Michigan slaps a person with a fine of 500 for not having the documentation (does anyone know about this new state law?).I was told to show my insurance and they would reduce my fine from 150 to 25.If I had $25 I could of bought my family a Turkey.
Posted 12:31 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
Part 4
My husband drives this car usually and had the insurance in his wallet which he was a work.So being frustrated and upset yes I cried but it was because I was being slammed w/a ticket in which I can't afford I can't even afford xmas for my children.I explained to him this is great when I don't have any money and as it was I was on my way to pick up a turkey that was being gifted to my family.
Posted 12:31 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
part 3
He stated i was going 50 in a 35 which was not true and highly impossible coming out of a turn. He was rude and asked why I didn't pull over asap.I wanted to be safe for my childs sake and thought he wasn't pulling me over is how i replied.I did challenge him by saying how can he clock me going 50 coming out of a turn.He was rude again and couldn't look me in the eye.I fumbled to find my proof of insurance which the one I had was a temp one as it was a newly purchase used car on 11/16.
Posted 12:30 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
Part 2
He pulled me over I looked around for a safe spot to pull over out of the street which was one block. He asked if i knew why i was pulled over and honestly stated to him that I didn't know other than the person in front of me slammed on their breaks he replied yes they did because they saw him and did I see him.I did see him but thought nothing of it as I was doing nothing wrong other than going over 5 mph.
Posted 12:29 AM EST November 22, 2006
Posted by: kaileyjoy
Got pulled over today.I was turning left went a block and was behind a person that decided to slam on their breaks.Looked around and saw a policeman sitting in a parkinglot. Saw speed limit sign 35mph looked at my speedo 40 mph.The officer pulled behind me and the person that was in front of me slammed on their breaks again then turned left into parking lot thinking she was being pulled over. Part 1
Posted 4:26 PM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: 69cadi
back in the day, before police started to get shot, I found getting out of the car. Moveing slowing towards his car, hands away from my body. I found that the officer took it as a sign of respect to him, when I meeting at the rear of my car. Its all about respect.
Posted 3:15 PM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: gesualdo
Not volunteering information is not the same as playing dumb. If you were pulled over for a broken tail light, and you volunteer you were driving 5 mph above the speed limit, now you've got two tickets. And before you say something about being responsible and honest, consider that your speedometer may not be completely accurate. Wear and tear, tire size and pressure, etc. can play into that. Don't play dumb. But don't admit guilt until you're standing in a courtroom.
Posted 2:02 PM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: samf1
My husband is a police officer. Crying and playing stupid doesn't work. For the comment about passing him a $50.00 bill attached to the license-not only will you get the inital ticket, but another one for trying to bribe an officer. More towns use laser and there is no way to get out of that ticket. The horror stories I hear from him about wrecks involving speeding are enough to keep my speed down.
Posted 1:13 PM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: ladydaisy
Following the law is always the best way to go..But, if pulled over I think it is best to always be honest, polite and apologetic. I have never seen anyone get out of a ticket by lying or acting dumb!
Posted 12:23 PM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: Daddys3rdGirl
DO NOT CRY and DO NOT admit to speeding (tried both, never worked for me). DO everything the article said and 9 times out of 10 you'll get off with a warning, it worked for me. Many times people will talk themselves INTO a ticket, not out of it. The burden of proof is on the officer especially if he/she did not get you on radar.
Posted 11:54 AM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: heyoka
Is it me or did they change the spelling of myth when I was out getting a ticket?
Posted 11:01 AM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: cdB824
I am a police officer and let me first say THERE ARE NO QUOTAS where I work at. If you cry, lie, or just act stupid you are going to get a ticket. Be honest and tell the truth, then I'll pull up your past driving history and if it looks pretty good you might not get a ticket. Oh, and by the way if you have a RADAR DETECTOR you'll receive a ticket 100% of the time.
Posted 9:34 AM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: orbin1
if you do something that a peace officer pulls you over for, suck it up, listen to what they are telling you, don't act like an idiot, be courteous, remember, he or she, just might be the officer who responds to your 911 call
Posted 9:26 AM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: misty72
ABOUT QUOTA MITH............. ITS NOT A MITH ITS VARY MUCH TRUE AND YES EVERY COP HAS ONE TO MAKE AT THE END OF THE MONTH
Posted 2:17 AM EST November 21, 2006
Posted by: ThreeFifteen
Just don't break the law, you say? That statement?s preachy to the point of arrogance. But nevertheless, let's measure its naivete together. The vehicle code is so arcane that it take prolonged study to even start to master it.. The average law abiding motorist, despite every good intention, still violates regulations an average of once a minute. Just don't break the law, you say? Ha! Try it yourself for a week and report back. If you?re still sane.
Posted 4:33 PM EST November 20, 2006
Posted by: justin708
EDUCATION BY ENFORCEMENT.....
Posted 3:40 PM EST November 20, 2006
Posted by: StoppedAlot
I?m ticket free due to honesty. Each time I am asked by the officer if I know why I?ve been stopped, I answer truthfully and tell them my speed.

Why would I give them evidence? Because I deserve it. I know I'm speeding and I understand the consequences, and because their job is hard enough without me trying to weasel my way out of something when I'm wrong. I think they appreciate the honesty.





Posted 3:28 PM EST November 20, 2006
Posted by: Serious1
Anyone here mentioning quota? Or do you all still believe thats just a mith?
Posted 3:13 PM EST November 20, 2006
Posted by: renrut
Well, here's an idea. Costly speeding tickets (or other traffic law violation tickets) as well as time-consuming trips to court can ALL be avioded! DON'T BREAK THE LAW!!!! Geez, is it really so hard - or such a stretch of COMMON SENSE???!!!!!
Posted 7:45 PM EST September 26, 2006
Posted by: j1022
I work in computers for the __ State Police. I got pulled over for a double lane change ('unsafe maneuver') by a Trooper whom I worked a computer help desk ticket for a week earlier! Anyway, didn't even try to sweet talk him... just 'Yes sir, I understand sir' and took the ticket. Later I noticed the citation/Trooper's descrIption of why I was pulled over completely doesn't match the section code that's on the citation. That plus it's a bogus citation to start with, so I'm fighting it.
Posted 9:51 AM EST September 26, 2006
Posted by: thorkyl
A Cops Best advice given to me, when you get pulled over, get off the road.
If you are on the freeway, exit the freeway and then head for a parking lot, and park so you cant drive forward, roll down your windows now the officer can see you.
When the officer asks you why it took you so long to pull over or why you did not pull over right away. ?I did not feel safe stopping on the side of the freeway, we could be hit.?
Posted 10:59 PM EST September 25, 2006
Posted by: jman_115
Most cops are egocentric and lazy, so they don't want to do any ticket writing unless they have to. They would much rather be eating donuts or working one of their many side jobs. However, when they are trying to get their quotas as traffic control officers have, whether they are written or unwritten, watch out! They will sit on the side of the road in groups and pull over a hundred cars in a couple of hours. Anyway, the best way to get out of a ticket is to avoid them.
Posted 5:26 PM EST September 25, 2006
Posted by: lexterdog
I have several friends who are police officers. Each and every one of them say that just being honest is the best policy. DON'T try to be cute, funny or manipulative...that will just irritate them. They're more likely to give you a ticket.
Posted 11:01 AM EST August 15, 2006
Posted by: MPDaviet
As attorney for 2 major police departments since 1991, I know that 99.9% of officers, like Sage, are reasonable people who use good judgment. None of the suggested tricks work on a good cop. The factor that weighs heaviest in your favor is a good and respectful attitude. Ironically, manipulative tactics actually show your acknowledgement of guilt, rather than motivating an officer to give you a break. Obeying traffic laws is the true way to avoid a ticket... Mary
Posted 6:32 AM EST August 14, 2006
Posted by: isis56
I was ticketed at Newark airport by a cop when I went to pick up a friend. I went to court 6 times and the cop never showed. Fifth time in court I spoke up to Judge Vanessa Williams Powell at Newark Court in NJ. She had her court officer pushed me out the court, dragged and slammed me against the concrete wall in a holding cell for 2 hours and he called me a bitch. Talk your way out of a ticket? They're gonna do what they have to do anyway. To hell with all cops and judges.
Posted 8:23 PM EST August 12, 2006
Posted by: sbdcynthia
Driving the speed limit offers additional benefits in addition to avoiding the cost and inconvenience of tickets and higher insurance rates. I sure don't miss the anxiety I used to feel about possibly getting pulled over, it significantly saves $$$$ on gas, but best of all it protects your own life and health as well as those of others!
Posted 12:16 PM EST August 12, 2006
Posted by: KATH13
I probably will cry and it won't be because I am being manipulative or childish. I like many others get nervous especially if a suad car is behind you. I drive the speed limit. However what do you do when everyone else is flying down the freeway & YOUR CAUGHT UP IN IT?
Posted 7:36 PM EST August 09, 2006
Posted by: soccerbabe1919
Sometimes girls cry not because they are acting 'childish' or 'manipulative' My first ticket i started bawling the second i saw the lights. I was in no way trying to get out of it, I just couldnt control myselt any other way. And another thing... if you get caught speeding with a radar detector your prob gonna get the ticket anyways no matter the excuse.
Posted 3:59 PM EST August 09, 2006
Posted by: dilizharb
IF you speed and get caught just pay the ticket. Don't tell a lie or try to come up with some kind of way around it...don't waste the courts time, the officers time, or YOUR time telling a big fat lie...JUST SLOW DOWN...the life you save could very well be your own!
Posted 3:23 PM EST August 09, 2006
Posted by: jgtaylorusmc
If stopped by a police officer, watch to see if he is bringing his ticket book with him when he talks to you. If he brings it, YOU ARE going to get a ticket period. If he does NOT bring it with him, sit back and relax, be polite and attentive and you will be on your way with a warning. I'm a retired Chief of Police.
Posted 3:15 PM EST August 09, 2006
Posted by: pbrbodacious
In court I ask the cop's score on the Vascar test. If it was 85, I restate the officer's ability to use the equipment: 'Would it be fair to say that 15% of the time you're wrong?' It's difficult to answer, forcing the officer to agree or say that he/she no longer makes mistakes; i.e., is perfect all of the time. While this tactic may not work in a court of non-record, upon appeal to a higher court of record the officer has been intimidated and fails to appear.
Posted 2:58 AM EST August 06, 2006
Posted by: CorbansCorner
Truth works. I've been pulled over for speeding twice in the past month. The first time I was in a hurry to get home because my toddler was overheating and -(Oklahoma heat). The second time I was late for a court hearing. Both times the officers saw the proof and only one issued me a warning - the other just told me to watch my speed.
Posted 2:57 PM EST August 04, 2006
Posted by: RetiredCop
When I was a young recruit attending the police academy we were taught to ALWAYS write a ticket to a woman who cries. The reasoning was that if the crying was fake the woman was being manipulative. If the crying was genuine the woman was reverting back to childish behavior where mommy or daddy made things OK if you cried, and, excusing a ticket for crying only reinforced this behavior. Officers, ALWAYS issue a citation to criers. Women, don't cry, it's either childish or manipulative.
Posted 6:06 PM EST August 02, 2006
Posted by: jms32inaz
Can you ask to see the officer's radar/laser gun license? Supposedly, all officers using the radar/laser speed detector have to be licensed and the license must be current.
Posted 5:49 PM EST August 02, 2006
Posted by: Monarch00
Here is something to break the ice with the officer. Say to him/her, 'You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?'
Posted 11:00 AM EST August 01, 2006
Posted by: JoJoDaClown
They missed one. Read the ticket to verify everything's correct. I was pulled over on my motorcycle for 27 in 25. What hurt me was driving on a motorcycle instructional permit. He stuck me with not obeying an instructional permit. The verbage was the correct charge but the code was for driving on a suspended license. With that error I plead not guilty rightfully and get the charges dismissed. If I wouldn't have had a roommate that was a law student, I would've never known and been out the $300.
Posted 11:46 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: JAYRAY
After 4 cars sped past me in the passing lane, I pulled into the lane to take the left fork. The office thought I was the fourth car. 3 months later I drove 100 miles to state my side of the case instead of paying a $50 fine. The judge believed me and dismissed the case. It still cost me $12 in court cost and a day's work. An expensive principle.
Posted 8:07 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: cjhorne
I was stopped by a small town cop for 40 in a 25 zone. He commented favorably on my Bush for President bumper sticker. I asked him if there was any way he could let me off with a warning, with a promise I would never speed through his town again. He said...'Well, 40 mph is pretty fast, but I will let you off with a warning.'

Having a wife, little kids and a dog in a sedate 4 door sedan have twice resulted in sympathy from the cops and they have let me off.
Posted 3:49 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: windtravelor
A young lady even brought her lawyer, who claimed that the officer's radar gun wouldn't work in the light rain that was falling when the incident took place. The officer replied that the gun always works, even in heavier rains. Guess who the judge believed? That lady ended up having to pay for the ticket and the lawyer.
Posted 3:48 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: windtravelor
The most common and most useless defense was, 'I was just following another car', or 'everyone else is doing the same speed'. After sitting in the court room for at least 20 hours, I've come to the conclusion that if you don't want a speeding ticket, try not to get caught speeding. That's the only way. Simple as that.
Posted 3:47 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: windtravelor
E.g., one guy claimed his truck can only go 45mph max, he even brought a copy of the repair report from the mechanic, but that didn't get him off the hook. Another claimed that there was a brick wall between the officer and the road, that the officer can't possibly get a reading. He had diagrams to prove it. That was thrown out.
Posted 3:47 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: windtravelor
It is exceedingly difficult to get out of a speeding ticket. I've been to traffic court a couple of times and have seen many excuses for speeding, some credible, other outlandish. None of them got any sympathy from the judge.
Posted 12:20 PM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: maraljud
I agree with the above police officer. Clipping a $ 50 bill to your licence is trying for a bribe and may land you in jail.
Posted 11:30 AM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: steve_bolo
In Southern Cal they put traffic cameras everywhere, and these cameras take viedos of things like not coming to a complete stop at a red light. Try to argue that in court.
Posted 11:08 AM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: jshoag27
How about this Idea? Obey the law and posted speed limits. The 2 tickets I got in the last 10 years were n small towns where the speed drops from 45 to 35 or 30. So you are going along at 45 or 50 and then poof you are in a 35 if you do not pay attention. I missed the sign. I deserved the ticket and paid my fine. Accidents happen when we don't pay attention. Be polite to officers - 99% of them are risking their lives to protect the public at relatively low pay.
Posted 1:33 AM EST July 31, 2006
Posted by: noluckhere
Unfortunately for CDL holders whether in their own personal car or their commercial vehicle, driving school options are slowly being taken away across the country. Your only hope is to have GOOD proof and reason tangiable with you in court. Even sometimes that does not help because the judge just does not understand what your proof is, and the officer won't explain to the judge or argue for you.
Posted 1:47 PM EST July 30, 2006
Posted by: gergenpn0
I have never had been convicted of a speeding or DUI ticket; since I come from the LE community my rules are simple - break the evidence chain, and there are many ways to do that.
Posted 11:35 AM EST July 30, 2006
Posted by: mushroombrew
I can only assume that 90% of the odds comes from the type of person the officer is or what type of mood he or she may be in. Talking your way out of it could either help or hurt. I've heard people talk trash about what they do to get out of tickets just to see them lock up and be totally cooperative when they get pulled while I'm in the car when they get pulled.
Posted 11:29 AM EST July 30, 2006
Posted by: renodogs
You can actually talk yourself into additional charges on a ticket by trying to be apologetic and sheepish, thus proving you're 'guilty'. You don't have to play these games of crying, joking, thinking you're his best 'bud', sarcasm, etc. Putting your hands on the dash will get you unwarranted suspicion - only gang bangers and ex-cons do that stuff. Just sit tight keep your mouth and your tear ducts shut, and do what the officer tells you to do.

Dave
Posted 1:03 PM EST July 29, 2006
Posted by: daddydallen
just as the officer is beside your car flip open your wallet and talk in to it,
beam me up scotty
A laugh is probably your best real bet.
Posted 12:18 PM EST July 29, 2006
Posted by: orvill59
For a speeding ticket try obtaining several documents. Maintenance and calibration records of the gun,training and certification records of the officer for the equipment. The gun could be overdue for maint or have a history of poor reliability. The officer could be overdue for training or not have any training documented. They may even forget or ignore your discovery request. Does it work all the time? No. You got caught and are grasping at the straws. Prevention is the easiest way to go.
Posted 7:14 AM EST July 29, 2006
Posted by: encore12
A $50 bill clipped to your license also works quite well.
Posted 5:22 AM EST July 29, 2006
Posted by: sagenm
I am a police officer. Crying to manipulate, dropping names, and playing dumb will not help you with a ticket with me. I try to be fair and use good judgment. Those tactics are annoying, manipulative and often counterproductive. Thanks, sage
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