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Published June 26, 2008  |  A A A
SmartMoney Magazine by Reshma Kapadia (Author Archive)

CEO Interview: GM's Rick Wagoner

RICK WAGONER ISN'T hard to recognize. At 6-foot-4, the former Duke University basketball player has graduated to chief executive of American icon General Motors (GM). Even so, as he strides through a lobby showcasing dozens of GM's newest models toward his office in the glass skyscraper of Detroit's Renaissance Center, he pauses to flash his badge to the security guard.

By most measures Wagoner shouldn't even have a badge to flash. Who isn't familiar with the trials of GM? The automaker logged its biggest loss ever last year, $39 billion — that's a loss of more than $100 million a day. GM's share of the U.S. auto market continues to slide, now down to 24 percent, as foreign rivals keep up their relentless assault. And the stock has tumbled so far that its market value is a fraction of its former self, at $12 billion.

But Wagoner is still hanging on, and his fans say the 55-year-old's management style may be one reason there hasn't been a mutiny. In an industry known for limelight-craving chiefs who rule by fiat, the Virginia native has hired people who have garnered some attention, like design maven Bob Lutz. It also helps that Wagoner has scored some victories — historic ones, even. After decades of drowning in wage, health care and pension costs, Wagoner won significant relief from the United Auto Workers, saving $4 billion to $5 billion in future costs. And after years of promises of better cars, GM has introduced legitimate winners, like the Chevy Malibu, recently named "North American Car of the Year" by automotive journalists.

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That's not to say everyone is sanguine. Wagoner fended off billionaire investor Kirk Kerkorian's efforts to forge an alliance between GM and rivals Nissan and Renault in 2006. But with the stock down 50 percent since last October, some, like William Smith, president of SAM Advisors, are still peeved. "It's a disaster," says Smith. "They have the best product lineup and can't capitalize." SmartMoney staff writer Reshma Kapadia sat down with Wagoner to discuss how any automotive CEO could be upbeat and what GM can do to turn around.

With all the challenges facing you, what tops your priority list?

We need to drive revenue growth. Frankly, that's hard to do in a weak market, but that's what is really going to emphasize the extent of the changes we made and translate our improvements in products, quality and manufacturing into better financial results.

How do you do that?

We've cut $9 billion in fixed costs through plant consolidation and job cuts, and think we can cut another $5 billion or so over the next three years with lower health care, pension and labor costs with the new United Auto Workers agreement.

A lot of people are talking about a U.S. recession. Can the great American automaker still turn things around?

Rick Wagoner"I'm a big shareholder myself; I share the frustration. I talk to major investors regularly, and of course they would love to see a higher stock price."
— Rick Wagoner
Sure. There are a number of things that will play out over the next couple of years that should improve our earnings. When we complete the 2007 labor agreement, we will get $4 billion to $5 billion in savings, a half billion when our supplier Delphi gets out of bankruptcy, and if the U.S. industry gets back to average sales, that will be $1 billion to $1.5 billion, conservatively. We don't have the profitability we want, but we are improving our cash flow. So even in a very difficult U.S. environment, help is on its way. But we're not waiting for help to get here. We are coming up with other ways to improve our cost structure, including a buyout offer for U.S. hourly employees.
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User Comments
Posted by: swami2
STOP IT! GM is a wreck. The once proud enterprise that was controlled by DuPont for it's greatest 40 year run (1921~1961) was ruined by so-so management and a shoulder shrug lineup. Yes, its trucks and large SUV(s) are good product but they have nothing in cars. The STS,CTS and Deville are OK, the Impala is better than OK. Malibu and Aura are weak. Honda and Lexus are the benchmarks. List a great GM new product in the last 50 years. My memory immediately says the 1966 Tornado. The VOLT is a gimmick. It's range is 40 miles than a 6.5 hour recharge. Hopefully they'll co-power with a conventional power plant. Gee, BMW and Honda are working on steam hybrids. The holy grail for electrics is the battery. But, everybody knows this.

This company is hobbled by bloated middle management and a thin 200 man senior staff that is more concerned about their pay packages than shareholder's equity. Hopefully, it will be absorbed or part of a controlled conglomerate. This management t...(Read more of this comment)
Posted by: tbirl00
I bought a 2008 Saturn Astra back in March. This car is nothing short of phenomenal. I drive city/highway about 50/50. I get between 35 and 38 mpg every tank. The car is only rated at 24/32 by the EPA.

The Astra handles like a sports car. I look for winding roads. In fact, this car is so much fun to drive, I look for excuses to drive it!

Here is the sad part - I have yet to see another Astra on the road. How can such a great car for that stickers for less than $20,000 generate so little interest?

Mr. Wagoner, you have some really great cars on the lots. But...GM has lost it's MOJO!
Posted by: DKP50
I think the REAL Problem for our (US) Auto makers is? LABOR Costs and Benefits have just Gotten WAY Out of Control..Ican't see how they can Pay such High Salaries and Those Benefits & Pensions in the Yrs ahead, while Competition Co.'s ( Think Toyota) don't have too...( Paying Factory worker $1,000+ wk )

Me thinks They Should Go Bankrupt to Break those Deals and be able to Start over..just like the AIRLINES and other Co.'s were able to do.

Even Our Cities can't maintain the over-wage Salaries and Benefits /Pensions it got Locked into by Unions. ie: paying a City Transporation employee the Ave. of $58k Yr and gets Super 75% Pension & Health Care benefits after only 20 yrs? Just for a 'truck' Driver Level of Education and Low Job Skill required for it?


Posted by: enslin
gm is a mess thanks to the spin-offs that force GM to pay off the workers in
these companies (delphi american axle).Also their employees are being paid off.
Also there cars are not what people want. add closing of plants and you have the
perfect storm!!!!!!
Posted by: edwka
I agree that American cars are very good. Part of the problem is how GM, Ford and Chrysler promote the cars and trucks. Nobody cares about what they look like and the subliminal impressions, because they basically all look the same.

What is important is how they handle, reliability, operating costs, cost of repair, milage, longevity, comfort, ease of entry and exit, safety, unique features, and quietness. These are what needs to be stressed in advertising. This is how the Japanese did it.
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